--- Log opened Mon Dec 17 00:00:34 2012
00:53 < hij1nx> rvagg: levelup working like a charm after reinstalling ranlib
01:48 < dominictarr> st_luke, hey! whats up?
01:49 < dominictarr> argh. trying to figure out flights.
01:49 < fotoverite> where to next?
01:50 < dominictarr> I've got a ticket to berlin already
01:51 < dominictarr> but then to asia, and back home for 6 weeks
01:59 < jjjjohnnny> hot curried squash soup // you get it on the countertop
02:01 < rvagg> hij1nx: awesome, about to release 0.4.0, it's pretty much ready, get it now with levelup@dev
02:05 < jjjjohnnny> flying thru 3D space is fun
02:06 < jjjjohnnny> in CSS (!)
02:10 < Raynos> demo?
02:12 < jjjjohnnny> coming sooooon
02:12 < jjjjohnnny> global positioning for your dom
02:14 < jjjjohnnny> Raynos: did they get the html5 video online with audio?
02:15 < Raynos> no
02:15 < jjjjohnnny> did they record it with audio?
02:31 < st_luke> dominictarr: hey dude, sorry I've been kinda afk lately
02:32 < dominictarr> have you finished up with work?
02:32 < dominictarr> we should hang
02:36 < substack> where are you stopping along in asia?
02:46 < substack> defunctzombie: hooray I fixed the race condition in that bounce test that was causing bouncy to fuck up
02:46 < defunctzombie> substack: oh yea?
02:46 < substack> unfortunately your pause/resume patch was causing my bouncy tests to fail
02:47 < defunctzombie> what was it?
02:47 < defunctzombie> yea, it would fail unless you have the timeout on the end
02:47 < substack> having the same stream for reads and writes
02:47 < substack> I split them up into req.createRawStream() and res.createRawStream()
02:47 < defunctzombie> shit.. maybe that is what is killing me with this bug I am having
02:47 < substack> and now it works with a slightly modified test
02:48 < substack> pushing in 1 sec, need to update the docs first
02:48 < defunctzombie> kk
02:48 < substack> bumping the major since this is an api break
02:48 < defunctzombie> wonder how the pause stuff will change as a result
02:48 < defunctzombie> or were you able to merge that in after the fact?
02:48 < defunctzombie> since pause is only important for the read side
02:49 < substack> I put that branch aside for the time being
02:49 < substack> so it's not merged in right now
02:49 < defunctzombie> k
02:49 < substack> well it won't merge cleanly though since the streams are separate
02:49 < defunctzombie> hm
02:49 < defunctzombie> ok, I will rework it to merge cleanly
02:50 < defunctzombie> do you want me to keep the buf.copy stuff
02:50 < defunctzombie> or try to find a way without copy.. I ran perf tests and teh copy didn't seem to hurt it
02:50 < defunctzombie> not sure if you ran your own perf tests with that stuff
02:51 < defunctzombie> the copy is technically more correct I believe (as I noted in the comment)
02:52 < defunctzombie> substack: let me know when you push and I can see if this fixes the bug I have been battling
02:53  * defunctzombie prays
02:55 < substack> if the perf is fine I don't see the harm of it
03:13 < defunctzombie> dominictarr: "the ascent of money" by Niall Ferguson
03:14 < defunctzombie> I can bring it back with me to nyc if desired
03:14 < substack> ok pushed and published http-raw@1.0.0
03:15 < fotoverite> Nice
03:15 < defunctzombie> k, taking a look
03:21 < substack> also my indents are an intentional configuration :p
03:31 < defunctzombie> substack: :p evil
03:31 < defunctzombie> my editor highlights trailing spaces in a very vivid red
03:31 < defunctzombie> looks very menacing
03:33 < substack> configure it to mind its own business
03:36 < defunctzombie> substack: https://github.com/shtylman/localtunnel/tree/http-raw
03:36 < defunctzombie> I pushed my changes here
03:36 < defunctzombie> I am still seeing the bug
03:36 < defunctzombie> when using the new http raw
03:36 < defunctzombie> the queue test reproduces it
03:36 < defunctzombie> mocha --ui qunit test/queue.js
03:37 < defunctzombie> the queue test makes requests with http module
03:37 < defunctzombie> using a low agent count
03:37 < substack> use a high agent count
03:37 < substack> Number.MAX_VALUE
03:37 < defunctzombie> substack: well, this exposes an issue
03:37 < substack> in node core
03:37 < substack> for having an agent pool in the first place
03:37 < defunctzombie> that I have been trying to figure out
03:37 < defunctzombie> haha
03:37 < defunctzombie> well, I would like to see if that is actually true :)
03:38 < defunctzombie> maybe it is and it is all for naught
03:38 < substack> in bouncy I'll have it use an agent instance with a MAX_VALUE pool size to avoid this issue
03:38 < defunctzombie> do you see the same issue?
03:38 < substack> in testling-ci I just set the poolSize to Number.MAX_VALUE and then all the bugs I was having went away
03:39 < defunctzombie> huh
03:39 < defunctzombie> what is the issue then?
03:39 < defunctzombie> cause the problem I see is that I never get the second request over the wire
03:39 < defunctzombie> and by manually calling ws.end() then it causes a socket failure on the other side
03:43 < defunctzombie> substack: what happened to the onIncoming stuff?
03:46 < dominictarr> defunctzombie, ah fuck no kindle version
03:54 < substack> defunctzombie: I needed to patch the response too so I moved it all into a 'request' handler
03:55 < defunctzombie> on incoming gives you the response tho
03:55 < defunctzombie> btw
03:55 < defunctzombie> it is the first argument
03:56 < substack> that's just the request
04:44 < defunctzombie> substack: no end method
04:44 < defunctzombie> on req.createRawStream
04:44 < defunctzombie> when used inside an upgrade handler
04:44 < defunctzombie> where it is a readable and writable stream
04:45 < defunctzombie> actually.. doesn't seem that you can write at all inside an upgrade
04:47 < substack> because it's a readable stream now
04:48 < substack> just write directly to sock
04:48 < substack> server.on('upgrade', function (req, sock) {})
04:49 < defunctzombie> ah ok
04:49 < defunctzombie> gotcha
04:49 < defunctzombie> didn't realize that was there, I was using req.connection
04:49 < defunctzombie> anyhow, I have pause/resume back
04:55 < substack> fuck browsers
04:56 < substack> caching sucks so much
04:56 < fotoverite> THat's your market
04:56 < substack> my local cache got all kinds of fucked up
04:56 < defunctzombie> hahaha
04:56 < defunctzombie> always finger your resources
04:56 < substack> it tells me "file not found"
04:57 < substack> except when I do a hard ctrl-refresh
04:57 < substack> and then it works
04:57 < substack> but then I try to load a page it pulls from the broken cache
04:59 < substack> and I know the browser is full of shit because when I curl these urls they work fine
04:59 < substack> it's probably some express bullshit
04:59 < defunctzombie> is this a route?
04:59 < substack> haven't had a reason to finally rip out the last vestiges of express yet
04:59 < substack> but I finally have one
05:00 < fotoverite> fuck express. Good that you'll be getting rid of it.
05:00 < defunctzombie> or something else?
05:02 < ik> DAYCHANGE!
05:04 < substack> express does so much magic it's really hard to tell if other things are going on
05:07 < defunctzombie> express does less magic than other things
05:07 < defunctzombie> I have found that the amount of magic actually isn't all that magical
05:07 < defunctzombie> maybe that is cause I have been working with it for so long
05:09 < defunctzombie> substack: have you run 'bench raw' on the latest http-raw?
05:09 < defunctzombie> you might want to do that
05:09 < defunctzombie> I see a bunch of emitter leak warnings
05:10 < substack> yes
05:10 < substack> I see no such warnings
05:10 < substack> node 0.8.12 here
05:10 < substack> and it caps out at 43.7 M
05:10 < defunctzombie> k
05:10 < substack> could be because you're on a faster computer?
05:10 < defunctzombie> node 0.8.15 here
05:11 < defunctzombie> hm
05:11 < defunctzombie> I see a bunch of add listener warnings and then it shits itself with EMFILE
05:11 < defunctzombie> that is the upper file limit, I will fix that one.. but the listener warnings are interesting
05:12 < defunctzombie> those shouldn't happen in any case
05:15 < defunctzombie> building 0.8.12 to try that out
05:17 < defunctzombie> dominictarr: so is that a yes? or you will find it elsewhere?
05:18 < dominictarr> the ascent of money?
05:18 < defunctzombie> yea
05:18 < dominictarr> I just saw that the documentary is on you tube
05:18 < dominictarr> so I might just watch it
05:18 < defunctzombie> k
05:19 < dominictarr> either gonna do that next, or read up on GSM
05:19 < fotoverite> It's four hours long!
05:19 < defunctzombie> is that a problem?
05:20 < fotoverite> No, most docu are 1.5 to 2.5
05:20 < fotoverite> 4 is a lot of information
05:20 < defunctzombie> dominictarr: I didn't know it was a documentary as well
05:20 < defunctzombie> guess there goes my sleep for tonight
05:21 < dominictarr> "documentary series"
05:21 < defunctzombie> substack: same issue for me on 0.8.12
05:21 < dominictarr> with 4 episodes
05:21 < defunctzombie> \o/
05:22 < defunctzombie> substack: also, the raw benchmark doesn't work for me as it exists in master btw
05:23 < substack> defunctzombie: the one on 89abc5c0c22f390f24bf48f2f2710350c0e4aec5 ?
05:24 < defunctzombie> ah, I didn't see that commit
05:28 < defunctzombie> anyhow, I ran the benchmark on pause/resume and seems good to me
05:28 < substack> IDEA
05:28 < defunctzombie> would be good if you double check it tho as my box apparently is having some issues
05:28 < substack> testling-ci animated gif badge for in-progress updates
05:28 < defunctzombie> oooo
05:28 < defunctzombie> fancy
05:28 < substack> so you can see your tests run right from the readme
05:28 < substack> that would get us so much HN traffic too
05:28 < substack> great publicity stunt
05:29 < defunctzombie> hahaha
05:29 < defunctzombie> and it is totally doable since you can push out the new gif frame as you want
05:29 < defunctzombie> whenever you want
05:29 < defunctzombie> hehe
05:29 < substack> yep
05:30 < substack> another repo in testling-ci hooray http://ci.testling.com/substack/gamma.js
05:31 < substack> another one of mine I mean
05:31 < substack> but still
05:31 < defunctzombie> I need to do a revision and see what else I can put into testling-ci
05:32 < defunctzombie> the cookie module can work in both
05:33 < substack> better error reporting coming soon
05:33 < dominictarr> streaming animated gifs would be AMAZING!
05:33 < substack> as in the next thing I mess with after I finish tinkering with http-raw stuff
05:33 < dominictarr> that would be so much win
05:34 < substack> yep
05:34 < dominictarr> everyone would want to give you money
05:34 < substack> I hope so
05:35 < defunctzombie> $$$
05:35 < substack> so another part of getting folks using testling-ci
05:35 < substack> is getting them writing more commonjs-esque style modules
05:35 < dominictarr> YES
05:35 < substack> because those are the easiest to test
05:35 < substack> doing one thing well and all of that
05:36 < substack> so I'm going to do some blog posts about how to write reusable modules
05:36 < defunctzombie> https://github.com/segmentio/analytics.js/pull/18
05:36 < defunctzombie> trying... trying very hard to get people to do it
05:36 < defunctzombie> I even made a super stupid version of a packager
05:36 < substack> covering module scope, how to test, how to iterate with versions, separating policy from mechanism
05:37 < defunctzombie> to add only 140 bytes! of overhead
05:37 < substack> a big way to separate policy from mechanism in node/browser code is streams
05:37 < defunctzombie> should be a good post
05:38 < defunctzombie> I honestly don't know what there is this massive draw to not writing commonjs style files
05:38 < dominictarr> oh man so much premature optimization
05:38 < dominictarr> hey hey hey
05:38 < dominictarr> idea
05:38 < defunctzombie> it is very awkward
05:38 < dominictarr> could make a really terse bundler for require style on dependency free modules
05:39 < dominictarr> that replaced the requires with functions that returned that module
05:39 < defunctzombie> dominictarr: https://github.com/shtylman/reunion
05:39 < defunctzombie> I thought about it
05:39 < defunctzombie> but in the end, it was just easy to do it with a super tiny require function
05:39 < defunctzombie> https://github.com/shtylman/reunion/blob/master/client/require.js
05:39 < defunctzombie> thats it
05:40 < defunctzombie> minified, it is basically nothing
05:41 < dominictarr> oh yeah!
05:41 < dominictarr> plus that is way easier to understand than a AST transformation
05:41 < defunctzombie> yes
05:41 < defunctzombie> your code is not changed
05:41 < defunctzombie> just wrapped
08:10 < substack> https://github.com/substack/plucky
08:58 < substack> defunctzombie_zz: merged pause/resume into http-raw@1.1.0
10:16 < substack> http://ci.testling.com/substack/dnode-protocol
10:18 < tanepiper> sup
10:18 < tanepiper> oh, cross-browser goodness
10:18 < substack> yep
10:19 < tanepiper> i really need to start writing some tests around https://github.com/tanepiper/nell
10:19 < substack> it's much much easier if you write tests for tiny libraries
10:20 < substack> or break up frontend stuff into tiny reusable pieces in lib/ or wherevs
10:20 < tanepiper> well each component is pretty much it's own library, with a command line
10:21 < tanepiper> (there is no front end in this code, it's a static site generator)
11:17 < juliangruber> hij1nx: streamline-leveldb is fixed, had a broken test in there
11:18 < juliangruber> rvagg: will look at your benchmarks later today, good to see some crashes...I didn't get them anymore so I thought it was safe
12:41 < ralphtheninja> I dreamt all night about "node.os", a node process running on my computer communicating with other node.os-instances p2p, using npm to install apps and a browserwindow to interface with them
12:44 < guybrush> ralphtheninja: why npm, was there and i think git is much better
12:45 < guybrush> like your node.os process just manages git-repos and provides exec interface so you can install stuff with npm still
12:45 < guybrush> or you could just use fleet :)
12:46 < guybrush> so you can install any thing with git, like redis and stuff - exec make and start multiple instances
12:47 < ralphtheninja> I thought about git as well, definitely a good idea
12:48 < guybrush> my first approach with the thing i tried (nexus), was fully built upon npm
12:48 < guybrush> now i switched to git and it just is much better
12:48 < ralphtheninja> oh are you working on something similar?
12:48 < guybrush> though you can put all your packages into git-repos and still use npm only, but git only is just really good
12:48 < ralphtheninja> yes I agree
12:49 < guybrush> ye its my hobby project
12:49 < guybrush> https://github.com/guybrush/nexus
12:49 < ralphtheninja> would render github more or less obsolete
12:49 < guybrush> its like fleet but different haha
12:49 < ralphtheninja> cool, I'll have a look at it
12:50 < guybrush> anyway i am not happy with how it is currently, i mean the diff to fleet is you have decoupled processes - where each can crash on its own without effecting others
12:51 < guybrush> had it implemented with node.spawn and dnode-rpc for every child-process, but I didnt like that every monitor used 10mb+ memory
12:52 < guybrush> like .. jitsu uses forever for everything i think? they use lots of ram for just monitor-processes :p
12:54 < ralphtheninja> I like decoupled processes .. all processes should be able to die and will die :)
12:54 < guybrush> yes i like the problem-space
12:56 < guybrush> what i want to try is, implement nexus like it was before i switched to mon and implement it with libuv
12:57 < guybrush> like libuv monitor-processes which connect/try to reconnect to a socket, a manager can listen on that socket and manage all the monitors via rpc
14:11 < Altreus> my async telephone shirt arrived at home ^_^
14:56 < tanepiper> async telephone?
14:56 < tanepiper> oh the Duplex one?
14:57 < tanepiper> guybrush: nexus looks awesome :D  Wish i was working on remote process stuff just now ;)  But alas it's all local cli stuff with node
14:58 < tanepiper> (although I've been working if I could make it a hosted service)
15:52 < defunctzombie> substack: awemsome
19:08 < defunctzombie> substack: it has begun! https://github.com/einaros/ws/pull/143#issuecomment-11455116
20:17 < niftylettuce_> upvotes preeze "Show HN: Teelaunch Prints & Ships Your Kickstarter & Indiegogo T-Shirt Rewards" /cc substack _sorensen pkrumins paul_irish dools elliottcable guybrush jesusabdullah yorick AvianFlu chadskidmore  <3333
20:18 < yorick> niftylettuce_: I sometimes question the legality of this kind of vote rings
20:18 < AvianFlu> OH WORD I SHALL INVESTIGATE
20:18 < LOUDBOT> THIS IS WHY WE USE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT QUITE A REAL PACKAGE MANAGER FOR PACKAGE MANAGEMENT
20:18 < yorick> niftylettuce_: I think HN has some mechanism against it
20:18 < niftylettuce_> yorick: yes they do
20:18 < niftylettuce_> yorick: but i only encourage you to upvote if you like it
20:18 < AvianFlu> yorick: they skew the news to benefit their companies
20:18 < niftylettuce_> AvianFlu: yes and also backstab people like me.
20:18 < AvianFlu> so this is just evening the scales
20:19 < niftylettuce_> AvianFlu: the partners backstabbed me
20:19 < niftylettuce_> AvianFlu: so i dont care.
20:19 < AvianFlu> yep
20:19 < AvianFlu> YC is a pyramid scheme
20:19 < fotoverite> Completely
20:19 < AvianFlu> and HN is their state media
20:19 < niftylettuce_> AvianFlu: <3 you /cc fotoverite
20:19 < niftylettuce_> CHARLIE IN THE BUSH!!! TANGO FOXTROT ALPHA!
20:19 < LOUDBOT> I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE IN HERE MAKING JOKES ABOUT THE JEWISH FAITH.  THAT'S SO LAST WEEK.
20:19 < fotoverite> FUCK HN
20:19 < LOUDBOT> BEHIND THE SCENES COLLABORATION!
20:20 < AvianFlu> THE LOUDBOT FAITH IS ALL THAT MATTERS HENCE
20:20 < LOUDBOT> THEYRE IN THE POCKET OF BIG CREDIT
20:20 < fotoverite> seriously we all got better shit to do.
20:20 < ik> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzvvvvvvvvvvwwwwwwwwmmmmmmbbbbxxkkjq;
20:22 < niftylettuce_> whas that mean in Swahili
20:28 < niftylettuce_> need mas upvotes!
20:29 < ik> go outside
20:30 < niftylettuce_> ik: its raining
20:30 < niftylettuce_> ik: ill melt?
21:09 < guybrush> lol niftylettuce_ i forgot my user/pwd for hackernews :D
21:09 < guybrush> really i just dont use this site at all
21:09 < niftylettuce_> guybrush: lol
21:09 < guybrush> but i will create an account and upvote for you :p
21:09 < niftylettuce_> guybrush: omg can i haz your babies?
21:17 < niftylettuce_> top 10!
21:43 < jjjjohnnny> super early demo of css 3d stuff eventual spherical game world tiling git@github.com:NHQ/maketrix.git
21:44 < jjjjohnnny> "GPS"
21:45 < chrisdickinson> jjjjohnnny: your package.json is broken
21:45 < chrisdickinson> "ecstatic" line need a comma after it
21:46 < jjjjohnnny> thx
21:46 < jjjjohnnny> something else too
21:46 < jjjjohnnny> a modyule i moved into the lib isnt linked correctly
21:46 < chrisdickinson> yeah, sylvester?
21:47 < jjjjohnnny> yes
21:47 < jjjjohnnny> the module as published appends to nodes Global and doesn't work with browseerify
21:49 < jjjjohnnny> wtf
21:49 < jjjjohnnny> can i have npm install a module from the lib?
21:51 < jjjjohnnny> ok fixes pushed, demo works
21:51 < chrisdickinson> sweet!
21:51 < jjjjohnnny> u seeeee??
21:52 < chrisdickinson> yep
21:52 < chrisdickinson> looks good!
21:52 < chrisdickinson> i was working on something similar-ish for webgl a while back, but haven't published it (hard part was deciding whether to make the shaders assume vec4 components for the globe or vec2 lat,lons)
21:53 < jjjjohnnny> this stuff is fraught with so many decisions!
21:54 < jjjjohnnny> this demo is fluff really, bc in gameplay the "globe" would several times the size of your screen
21:55 < chrisdickinson> (i think glslify will help with that, since then i can just assume the simple vec2s and if someone else wants to use it for something else they can just modify their attributes during the `require` step)
21:56 < jjjjohnnny> whats vec2 and vec4
21:58 < jjjjohnnny> whats does glslify do?
21:58 < jjjjohnnny> oic
21:59 < jjjjohnnny> part me always wants to build in canvas or webGL and that part of me always loses to CSS and the DOM WWWWWHHHHHYYYYY
21:59 < chrisdickinson> jjjjohnnny: vec4s are xyzw coords (the "w" coordinate is always "1") for 4x4 matrix multiplication in glsl, vec2s would just be xy, in this case taken to be lon/lat pairs
22:00 < chrisdickinson> i'm trying to make working with webgl easier
22:00 < CoverSlide> ...brain ...hurt
22:00 < chrisdickinson> glslify lets you package shaders as modules on npm, and working on a thing now that automatically creates a getter/setter JS api for a given program input ("programify") so you can just require your shader to get a full-blown program.
22:02 < chrisdickinson> (then setting uniforms is as simple as program.uniforms = {time: Date.now(), items:[{thing1: 2}, {thing1: 3}]}, vs. gl.setUniform1fv(gl.getUniformLocation(program, 'time'), [Date.now()]) …
22:03 < CoverSlide> uniforms?
22:03 < CoverSlide> what is this witchcraft of which you speak?
22:06 < jjjjohnnny> coming soon great circle distance calculations for 0-360 coordinates
22:07 < jjjjohnnny> could cheat and just use circle-circle 2d :\
22:15 < st_luke> brianloveswords: are you around this week / would you be interested in a small nyc js meetup for the peeps that care?
22:16 < brianloveswords> st_luke: I'm busy Wednesday and Friday, but other than that I think I'm free
22:17 < fotoverite> I'm trying to do something thursday with dominic
22:19 < st_luke> fotoverite: do you know someone that has a location we could use?
22:19 < st_luke> maybe pivotal or meetup or anywhere I guess
22:20 < st_luke> actually let me check with juan
22:20 < fotoverite> meetup
22:20 < fotoverite> we have it for thursday at the moment
22:20 < defunctzombie> on Wednesday there is a node.js meetup
22:20 < defunctzombie> at pivitol iirc
22:21 < st_luke> ah really big, no?
22:21 < fotoverite> I can put in the request right now with adrian and announce it. I want dominc also to talk but he's being dominic
22:37 < chrisdickinson> component.js gives me a sad: https://github.com/henriknorberg/domnode-dom/blob/master/component.json
22:38 < mbalho> haha yea major NIH
22:39 < chrisdickinson> should i accept the PR if it comes in? i mean, i'd like my lib to be useful for this guy, but i also don't really love the idea of encouraging fork + add component.json
22:41 < mbalho> henrik is a cool dood, friend of mine
22:41 < mbalho> and its not like he decided component.json was a thing, thats tjs fault
22:42  * chrisdickinson nods
22:43 < st_luke> mbalho: working on those videos, I'll keep you posted dude
22:43 < mbalho> sweet
22:44 < chrisdickinson> just trying to decide whether or not to pull those changes in, even if i don't agree with that particular choice of package manager.
22:44 < mbalho> i dont want them, i just represent the javascript community
22:44 < st_luke> mbalho: you're fighting the good fight
22:45 < dominictarr> I know, patch component so that it accepts package.json and then people will use that
22:45 < dominictarr> fixing a problem with one pull request > fixing a problem with many
22:46 < chrisdickinson> i would be much more amenable to supporting component if it was just a key in package.json
22:46 < chrisdickinson> (and reused the rest of the data from package.json)
22:49 < dominictarr> st_luke, hey whats up?
22:49 < st_luke> dominictarr: hey dude, how's the city going?
22:49 < dominictarr> awesome
22:50 < dominictarr> really enjoying new york
22:56 < brianloveswords> chrisdickinson:  ++
22:56 < brianloveswords> Silly to have another .json for it.
22:59 < substack> dominictarr: http://github.com/substack/plucky
23:00 < substack> http://substack.net/audio/plucky.ogg
23:00 < dominictarr> st_luke, what are you up to this evening! we should hang out!
23:00 < dominictarr> I'm at paolo's place in kips bay
23:04 < st_luke> dominictarr: I'm not up to too much, we should meet up for sure
23:04 < dominictarr> cool, I would suggest a bar, but I heard you are not drinking
23:06 < st_luke> I'm not anti-bar, but I've had a couple bad times lately alcohol related so I probably wont drink anything
23:07 < st_luke> actually, one was a great time, and one was a terrible time
23:07 < dominictarr> yeah, deciding not to drink is often a good option
23:07 < dominictarr> I've taken a few dry holidays now and then
23:08 < dominictarr> the hard thing was explaining it all the time
23:08 < dominictarr> I just started saying I was straight-edge
23:08 < dominictarr> people like a box they can put you into.
23:09 < chrisdickinson> just get a tonic water or something with a fruit on the side
23:09 < chrisdickinson> everyone just assumes it's a mix drink.
23:10 < dominictarr> st_luke, or maybe there is a good late night cafe or something?
23:11 < st_luke> there's a pretty ok one near union square
23:11 < dominictarr> you pick a place, I don't really know NY
23:11 < st_luke> let me charge up my electronics for a short time and I'll find a place to meet up
23:11 < st_luke> then you can avoid getting lost
23:16 < dominictarr> st_luke, cool.
23:16 < dominictarr> I have to wait for paolo to get back, there is no way to lock the door from the inside
23:16 < dominictarr> but he should be back 40 min or something
23:21 < st_luke> dominictarr: good timing
23:21 < dominictarr> substack, http://substack.net/audio/plucky.ogg is really cool!
23:22 < dominictarr> ran the plucky/examples but my computer is too slow :(
23:22 < substack> oh no!
23:22 < substack> plucky is just a helper to schedule clips on top of baudio
23:22 < substack> dominictarr: try lowering the sample rate at the top
23:23 < substack> I had to lower it to 22050 from 44100 on my computer to play in real time without clipping
23:23 < dominictarr> 22050 is already very low
23:24 < substack> it has 3 channels which is probably the biggest thing
23:24 < substack> you can probably just merge those into 1 channel by summing them together
23:24 < dominictarr> hmm 22k/2 still sounds okay, because it's such simple sounds
23:25 < dominictarr> okay, I'm listening to it loop and playing drums to it with my mouth
23:25 < dominictarr> ^ that is a v.good sign
23:26 < substack> I figured out how to make some interesting percusive sounds with that pluck function too
23:26 < dominictarr> the big chordy tone i really like
23:34 < st_luke> dominictarr: want some chili later? my roommate is cooking some
23:34 < st_luke> dunno if you're eating meat or not
23:35 < dominictarr> hmm, oh sure. I'm not hungry at the moment
23:35 < dominictarr> but maybe later
23:35 < dominictarr> I eat everything
23:35 < st_luke> cool, it's not gonna be ready for an hour or two i think
23:35 < st_luke> brb
23:42 < substack> soundcloud is being weird
23:42 < substack> possibly because I uploaded an ogg file with 3 tracks
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